Same here.
Anders Andersen
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A Question
by FedUpJW ini would appreciate knowing from someone in the know if the goofy carts and rain covers are given to the congregation by the org.
or if the congregation has to pay the org for them.
i am sure i read that somewhere here in my lurking days, but am not finding it at present.. if the congregation is billed for it i intend to use that as a reason for my continued refusal to donate anything from now on.. thanks in advance..
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Chrome or Edge Browser? Which is Better?
by KateWild inso i finally am on windows 10. my computer kept asking me and i kept refusing, but then it went to a countdown and before i had a chance to stop it, it was updating, and i couldn't use my laptop for the full 1000 year reign of jesus christ.. when i finally could use it, i had a problem opening chrome with all my favourite apps or pages stored.
sometimes i have to open edge for for chrome to open.
but i have had a little go a edge.. edge has a different search engine to google, anyone know what it is?
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Anders Andersen
Zombie dub,
You're a mentally diseased apostate! I can't hear you! :-D
Or...I stand corrected. Microsoft is still evil though:-p
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Chrome or Edge Browser? Which is Better?
by KateWild inso i finally am on windows 10. my computer kept asking me and i kept refusing, but then it went to a countdown and before i had a chance to stop it, it was updating, and i couldn't use my laptop for the full 1000 year reign of jesus christ.. when i finally could use it, i had a problem opening chrome with all my favourite apps or pages stored.
sometimes i have to open edge for for chrome to open.
but i have had a little go a edge.. edge has a different search engine to google, anyone know what it is?
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Anders Andersen
I am a religious worshipper of all things Google, so Chrome it is.
Everything Microsoft is evil, especially their browsers that does not adhere to the HTML language standard that Microsoft helped create. Apparently they are important enough to break their own rules. Result: websites are designed incorrectly to work with Internet Explorer and Edge, and look broken in everything else....while all those other browse actually do work properly. /rant
Anyway, being an Chrome user I tried Edge a bit...works okay I guess, better than IE...but it's a conscience thing for me so I'm on Chrome.
Btw you can change the search engine in Edge: http://www.howtogeek.com/221709/how-to-change-your-default-search-engine-in-microsoft-edge/
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Evolution Hole #1 - Origin of Life
by shadow indisclaimer: my graduate degree is in business, not science so i'm writing as a layman in this field.
yes, i know that someone is going to say that evolution does not encompass this topic and should be sectioned off under abiogenesis.
i'm not trying to argue semantics here but it seems like a case of avoiding an uncomfortable subject.
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Anders Andersen
Crazyguy, by your logic:
Humans can't create supernatural Gods either*...so they must have been created.
See where this is going? Exactly, nowhere. The argument is quite flawed.
*) Imagining things and writing books about it isn't the same as actually creating.
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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Anders Andersen
The dark ages were called dark for a reason....
...and I always thought they were called 'dark' for their lack of reason...
:-D
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Animals not meant to eat meat
by Carl injw don't believe in evolution .
how come animals teeth are designed to chew meat?
sharks for instance have razor sharp pointy teeth these are not to eat vegetation .
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Anders Andersen
For those who think adaptation to environment does exist but can never lead to new species:
Look up what ring species are.
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A new celebrity JW . . . albeit from Nigeria.
by neat blue dog inhttp://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/clarion-chukwurah-turns-jehovahs-witness/.
this is begging for some nigerian scam jokes, i'm just not clever enough to think of them 😜.
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Anders Andersen
Well, unfortunately it's not a joke but reality:
Dearest,
I need your help urgently! My name is
Omawoko KakabongoYeshua ben Yousef fromNigeriaNazareth.I am the crown prince of the kingdom of
Popolokoheaven, but right now I livein exileon earth. There isa huge amount of moneyimmortality set apart for me, but right now I can't get to it.Soon my royal power will be restored, but I nees your help to do that.
Please, I need your help and will give you a big reward. You will receive
10% of my inheritanceeternal life if I can just use yourbank account to transfer the moneytime and energy to make more converts.Think about all the things you can do with
those moniesthat eternal life you'll receive!Please send $500 so I know you are serious about this, then I can start processing
the fundsyour eternal life.Yours truly,
Crown prince
Omawoko KakabongoYeshua ben Yousef fromNigeriaNazareth -
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What crime should elders report?
by kramer inso, i am trying to get my head around what the right position of elders should be when they come across crime is.. i think i get the issuess around clergy confidentiality - and how that might potentially be breached when they talk about it to other elders, let alone the police.. but if people are saying that elders - or clergy of another faith should report crime to the police when it is confessed to the, then where are the boundaries.. so if someone says they should report to police on a confessed example of child abuse, that's one thing.. how about reporting to police consensual sex between a 19year old and 15 year old - which is statutory rape in the uk.
how about criminal fraud if they come across it.
assault on a congregant?.
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Anders Andersen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_reporting_worldwide?wprov=sfla1
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-fight-law-requiring-child-sex-abuse-be-reported-to-police/
so the elders should report every accusation (not proven claim) of petty theft, or assault?
You're creating a straw man here.
Anyway my personal opinion is that confessional confidentiality in regular churches is hardly justified. I don't realy care about perps of whatever kind who need to confess to stop feeling guilty. They could just go to the police and deal with whatever they did wrong, cleansing their conscience in the process. So clergy should report confessed crimes to the police imho, but it should be mandatory to report child abuse at least.
As for Jehovah's Witnesses: they don't do confessions. They have no confidentiality. So they should at least report child abuse, especially when the law says they should.
Imho elders and clergy have the same rights and responsibilities as any other citizen. Besides, protecting victims and not perpetrators is the right thing to do.
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What crime should elders report?
by kramer inso, i am trying to get my head around what the right position of elders should be when they come across crime is.. i think i get the issuess around clergy confidentiality - and how that might potentially be breached when they talk about it to other elders, let alone the police.. but if people are saying that elders - or clergy of another faith should report crime to the police when it is confessed to the, then where are the boundaries.. so if someone says they should report to police on a confessed example of child abuse, that's one thing.. how about reporting to police consensual sex between a 19year old and 15 year old - which is statutory rape in the uk.
how about criminal fraud if they come across it.
assault on a congregant?.
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Anders Andersen
It's interesting that for Watchtower confidentiality is a one way street, just like freedom of conscience and religion.
Law: everyone should report (allegations/suspicions of) child abuse to the proper authorities when they have knowledge of such a thing.
Watchtower: That doesn't apply to us. Confessional confidentiality and such. An elder can only share intel with another elders to form an investigation committee. And then 3 other elders for the judicial committee. And a phone call and a letter to the branch with specifics. Oh and possibly the CO and the 3 or 4 elders on the appeal committee. So like we said: strictly confidential. The confession can only be shared with 11 elders. Unless the branch will be involved a bit, then it may be more.
Authorities: uhm.., yeah right. And what about when a victim comes to you for help? No perp confessed, so no confessional confidentiality applies right?
Watchtower: go away, Satan!
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Some JW: A JW friend of mine told me something in a confidential conversation. He smoked half a cigarette! How important is keeping confidential matters confidential?
Watchtower: Whenever a JW breaks our rules, you must tell us, or you will receive a share in the judgment for his sins. Must tell! Otherwise die!
Watchtower is morally bankrupt and has no rights whatsoever to hide behind any privilege they don't acknowledge for themselves anyway.
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My son is coming home to me soon. Yey!!!
by KateWild inmy son sent me a wonderful song a month ago on this thread.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5704271907520512/my-wonderful-son.
it's amazing how a bad experience can trigger action.
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Anders Andersen
Good for you and your son!